This interview took place over June 12-13, 2013 and is divided into two parts. Field of study: social work. Born in Grand Rapids, Michigan; moved to Cincinnati, Ohio; moved to Dallas, Texas; left home at fifteen years old; went to University of Colorado; transferred to University of Michigan; worked at Quaker summer camp in Vermont called Salt Ash Mountain Camp; moved to New Paltz to work as a counselor at boys home; worked at Floyd Patterson House in New York City; worked at Time Magazine as a copy boy; worked at Albert Einstein College of Medicine; worked as psychologist in Peekskill, New York at Hudson River Psychiatric Center; worked as Director of Blegen House. Keywords: LGBTQ, oral history, Blegen House, segregation, family therapy, family, social work, race, queer, identity politics, LGBT youth, education, Stonewall, Marsha P. Johnson, violence, bullying, journalism, war, belonging, counseling, community, organizing, ALANA Center, writing, Judith Nichols, athletics.