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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: January 1, 1863
Text: Mr. Schou will make a Copy as before Poughkeepsie January lst(?) 1863 Rev£ Chs A Raymond My dear Sir. Yours of the 24 Ultmo was rec last evening and my reply thereto this morning marks a memorial period - yesterday ended, to-day begins the new Year. It is a fit occasion to erect our "Ebenezers" God us we are for thus far has ^^ helped^wfe^ and spared to see the bright rising sun another A of this New Year Mornmg. Well, your letter has been thrice read. First to Amanda, Secondly to...
Show moreMr. Schou will make a Copy as before Poughkeepsie January lst(?) 1863 Rev£ Chs A Raymond My dear Sir. Yours of the 24 Ultmo was rec last evening and my reply thereto this morning marks a memorial period - yesterday ended, to-day begins the new Year. It is a fit occasion to erect our "Ebenezers" God us we are for thus far has ^^ helped^wfe^ and spared to see the bright rising sun another A of this New Year Mornmg. Well, your letter has been thrice read. First to Amanda, Secondly to Matthew, and thirdly to Mr. Swan, and will bear reading to every one inter- the cause of ested inJEducation. I prize the valuable thoughts and suggestions which it contains, and would that I had time and health to circumstances this Morn- d reply ing would admit of i^[ hoartfull more enlarg commendation - but my poor wife is quitofast approaching her last moments. We thot this morning she was dying, but she rallied again and may survive many hours perhaps some of a Female Friend days - add to which we had a particular call^upoH^from Millwalkee, this raorning, not knowingMrs. Vassar was sick- I have requested Mr. Schou to make another "Copy of the program of the payments of our Profession1' and will enclose you by early mail. Miss Germond unites in her best regards with the joint complements of the season to you & yours Very Respectfully 1 am dear friend truly yours &c (unsigned) cMatthew Vassar 3
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: December 12, 1862
Text: Hamilton Dec. 12, 1862 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear friend I received your very kind and cheerful letter a few days ago. Yesterday I received the article from the W. E. …, I am much oblige to you for sending it. and as you request my opinion, you shall have it. Though I am afraid that I am rather " …" the crude opinion which I am giving you, is rather a cumbersome extent. The "animus" of the article seem to me very kind. The style is quite "piquant" and [serious]. The...
Show moreHamilton Dec. 12, 1862 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear friend I received your very kind and cheerful letter a few days ago. Yesterday I received the article from the W. E. …, I am much oblige to you for sending it. and as you request my opinion, you shall have it. Though I am afraid that I am rather " …" the crude opinion which I am giving you, is rather a cumbersome extent. The "animus" of the article seem to me very kind. The style is quite "piquant" and [serious]. The points made in reply to objection, are "well put". and on the whole it is unusually good. The notices of yourself and [B. Lewett] are not fulsome, but …, and in good taste, and I see but little to mention; But in a praising way! Though to an "[expert]" in the Female college [line], some points seem overdone, and other not free from objections. … 1st The implications, quite abundantly sprinkled over the impact of the article-are quite unnecessary[sic]. There is no possible failure to be feared. How can it fail? Should it be How, it will not fail. But so far, I can't see any perfect[sic] of any [hailing]. That feature of the article is rather chilling in its tendency. … 2nd. He speaks of its … character as being not a large seminary, but a Real College. I don't see any real practical bearing to such a [distinction]. The idea of having a college for young ladies, where they will enter as the young men do in the american colleges, and remain [for] years, is [chimerical].-it is transcendental, as this is to be the fruit of its kind, where with the preparation of these young ladies be accomplished. … "Enter College' after an academical course, which has been presented with [singular] uniformity, for nearly one hundred years. But what uniformity is there in the girls [schools], most of them already [ape] “college … of… and not one girl in twenty could enter a male college. You may regard it as a fixed fact, for much have a … department, blended with for college. You can only avoid it in one may & that is death to your distinction … by making your college of … low a grade as to burlesque the very title of college. Your great success will be with pupils who enter at about for teen year of age. and such rule alone graduate. Girls are manifestly not boys! Let us not forget this. Boys study for a profession; girls cannot. More than half the student in our male colleges, have … that period of life, which leaves girls in the honorable; but not served clap of … maids. Love is a … sentiment with girls than ambition-not with boys. Men crave distinction-wealth-influence. Women crave affection-a husband-a home. You can’t change nature and if you depend when girls who have … eighteen years, to enter and … for years, you will find the number who grduate very few - and these all ugly. The good looking girls will all have lovers & be in a hurry to marry. Your only chancefor … graduates will be to do arrange your … of studies, that the pupils may enter from thirteen to fourteen-one year preparatory-graduate at nineteen or twenty. You can't hold them any longer, … they are bound to be old-maids & professional teachers. This is the practical plain truth. The idea of a college … as … alludes to is so intangible, that I suppose he … keep the intimation that it might fail- ... 3: The replies to the objection against a "boarding school" and … but a boarding school are well put. Does anyone really raise such objection? Prof. [Crosby]'s notions one exceedingly inapplicable to girls. they are … … The last few pages about the depression of women are true of the past, but not of the present, & among Ms. [Percontra] the very fact that women really govern us, not through one intellect, but through one sensibilities, and that they are the ruling power is the true ground for advocating their education. So much for the criticism — We are prospering, decidedly prospering so far. The … is very pleasant, the pupils all lady-like and good student. Their part training has been a very one sided affair though. They are all great at mathematics, this bassn been the grand hobby here. Very little knowledge of their own language, none of themselves, none of the object around them. Yet they are to be mothers! What a mistake to know nothing but algebra …! This comes from imitating the american college system, &applying it to girls. I can but hope that Vassar Female College has a higher mission. Has Jewett [returned]? I hope so. Tell him to write me when he gets …, and ..his …legs. I am anxious to know what he has learned in his absence, though I can’t expect it all in a letter. My thanks to … Amanda for her brief letter. It was very refreshing though brief. I am anxious to know how your apprehension for … Vs’ state one likely to terminate. Let me know if any … result ensue. Keep me posted in the news department of your enterprise Remember me to Jewett … do. From Truly … A. Raymond
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Creator: Raymond, Charles A.
Date: September 12, 1862
Text: Friday Sept 12. Matthew Vassar Esq. Dr[Dear] Freind[sic]. I send by Charlie to avoid to delay of mails. I have received from N[ew] Haven what interest money could be collected on short notice, being about half what I need. Please let me know by Charlie what I must do to make the necessary arrangements for the remainder, and I will find time to come up to-morrow morning and execute what bonds may be necessary. I never hated anything in my life, more than I have the stern decrees of an adverse...
Show moreFriday Sept 12. Matthew Vassar Esq. Dr[Dear] Freind[sic]. I send by Charlie to avoid to delay of mails. I have received from N[ew] Haven what interest money could be collected on short notice, being about half what I need. Please let me know by Charlie what I must do to make the necessary arrangements for the remainder, and I will find time to come up to-morrow morning and execute what bonds may be necessary. I never hated anything in my life, more than I have the stern decrees of an adverse fate, which make it necessary for me thus to trouble you, and whatever obligation I may give, you may be assured will afford me but little repose until it is cancelled. The customary salute to Miss Amanda. Until to-morrow. Yours Truly Chas[Charles] A. RaymondRev’d[Reverend] Ch[arles] C.[A.] Raymond Sept. 12. 1862
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: August 13, 1863
Text: Hamilton Aug. 13. 1863. Matthew Vassar Esqr. Dear Sir I have to acknowledge the receipt of a letter from you some time with enclosure. My acceptance of the enclosure can only be temporary, & from force of circumstances, which now promise to be but of that [duration[. Mr Jewett and succeeded in insulting me quite grossly before your letter arrived, so I was not surprised at its tone. Upon Mr Jewett formal pledge to alter nothing materially in the plan of organization, which upon his...
Show moreHamilton Aug. 13. 1863. Matthew Vassar Esqr. Dear Sir I have to acknowledge the receipt of a letter from you some time with enclosure. My acceptance of the enclosure can only be temporary, & from force of circumstances, which now promise to be but of that [duration[. Mr Jewett and succeeded in insulting me quite grossly before your letter arrived, so I was not surprised at its tone. Upon Mr Jewett formal pledge to alter nothing materially in the plan of organization, which upon his importunity I made out for him. I wrote you a private letter, concerning the authorship of the plan. But I find the plan as now …, … mangled, and defaced, and smooch added which is crude and impeachable, & wholly ridiculous; that in justice to myself, I must gather the misshapen abortion upon Mr Jewett. How much he knew of the principles and detail of the system which he now proferses to understand as well, [due to damage unrecognizable] obtained his knowledge as revealed in the “plan,” you and I both know. But as he has reported and reproduced these principles and details, his “plan” is full of blunder; and as a working schedule wholly impracticable. In a word “what is good is not new, and what is new is not good,” and it is first such a … affair, as from his correspondence with me I was led to expect, and from which I tried in vain to save him. now the thing is out, and challenges criticism it shall have mine as freely as it … it. had as soon as I get time, I shall … through the public …, and over my own signature, one or more letter to your Trustees, upon the history, and defect of the plan of organization as submitted to them. My respect to My Amanda. The will fund in one of my articles to Harper, for next month (Sept) under the head of Religious Life of the new slave, something to amuse her Very Respectfully Char. A. Raymond.Ch. A. Raymond Hamilton Aug, 13th 1863 Anewed 9 Sept Lee Copy Books
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: March 13, 1863
Text: Hamilton march 13 1863 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend I have to thank you for the picture of the college, which has come at last. I am very grateful for the gift. The picture … quite as impressive as a whole, as the … paper engraving. Some of the little … which may be created at some future impression I will mention to my amanda. Jewett and I have been butting our heads together in the dark for some time. he not getting hold of my ideas very clearly, and I wholly ignorant of his. Finally I...
Show moreHamilton march 13 1863 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend I have to thank you for the picture of the college, which has come at last. I am very grateful for the gift. The picture … quite as impressive as a whole, as the … paper engraving. Some of the little … which may be created at some future impression I will mention to my amanda. Jewett and I have been butting our heads together in the dark for some time. he not getting hold of my ideas very clearly, and I wholly ignorant of his. Finally I got tired of so much voluntary work, under such great disadvantages; especially as I not knowing his intentions didn't know whether I was doing anything to the purpose, nor whether my heavy … … in the right intention. So to bring out the facts in the case, I proposed to him to make some arrangement by which we could be together … the work of organization. Thinking that if my … was needed, the college … afford to pay my expenses while doing their work, and if I was not needed, i was spending as much time very unprofitably to other, & to myself. The result of my proposal to Jewett has been the development of his purposed method of completing the college organization and which is so different from what I imagined it would be; and so different are our views of what is demanded by the occasion. That it makes all my anxieties, and … in the college behalf appear simply ridiculous; because not … or not …. However it is very clear that the time had arrivedfor such a … on my part; and that I did well, in seeking to force it by my proposal. now to show you how two …, can not exactly disagree, but form different diagnosis and to let you amuse yourself by comparisons. I will give you the … of the two plans. When for consider that I have been for two months firing away big guns, at what was at last to have been [reckon] over by the …-gun of some professor. You will think that I ought to either hope firing, or know what I am shooting at. If course I know your wishes concerning the general character of the college and I was trying my best to work them into a grand embodiment, especially as I knew they … with my own views. I wanted to do a “big thing” in the way of education, and make form organization the occasion, of giving it to the world. My impression was that everything was to be prepared from coming June meeting, that every department was to be organized upon paper. a full report to be made by the press to the …., explaining the principles upon which the … of restriction was arranged and demonstrating … of the system …. Pointing on the deficiencies of other system & the need of reform. Then showing wherein the design of the Founder had been … in seeking to promote such reform by so magnificent an endowment. Then recommending for adoption by the … a general course of study, & directions for the professors in carrying out that course (embodying your view of making education practical, do as to give authority to thesuggestion & issue conformity to your [workers]. Upon doing such things & recommends the appointment of professors; the whole plan & detail of organization would be published to the world as college form “circular” and be scattered abroad for a year or so, before you opened, as an advocate & [expositor] of your system. It would be worth 200 pupils, to get the thing … well and have a years …. and all this which involves heavy work, I supposed must be done by June, for your meeting. hence my feeling of haste, pressure, & the need of vigorous work. That great reforms are needed Fem[ale] education you & i both know. That your ideas of meeting them are the true ones, I also know. That your college should have no definite purpose beyond the hundred & one other mammoth establishments such as [abbolt], it seems to me a pity. and when a good thing can be done to the would - and a glorious work be linked with the memory of the “Founder” as a practical reformer of superficialities, & a clear sighted appreciator of what was needed in the education of the … why I can’t bear to think of theses being nothing done, in the important matter of organization, but the getting up of a big school in the … typed plan of all other such schools in the world. It strikes me as a [tame] thing; for so great an attempt, having thus peculiar views, & feelings I thought that Jewett also had them, & something creditable would be attempted. But Jewett’s ideas are very different from mine. In facts notions and mine are opposites. His idea, as I understand it amount practically. In the having first such a school as the others have it …. abbott & only bigger. This general idea is this, to elect the teachers, and let each in his department arrange his subjects, and matter of instruction. This is of course … i.c. it is what any man who had no special object to accomplish would do. It is what has been done for forty years, & to a great extent by lady teachers! and the result is a piece of … no leading purpose to accomplish; no leading mind …. all the … of … to that purpose, & guiding and … it … the whole. In fact no object, no system at all, only a certain quantity of education furnished by each of 7 men; Of course when compared with others, it is only more of the same stuff, that is now so plentiful in … & other places: the patchwork is in bigger pieces, because worked upon the larger framework of a greater establishment. Here you see how great a difference there is in our ideas of what is needed. and how to carry out the [organization], so as to accomplish the need. I would have for my purpose, a [radicle] reform in the whole system of Fem[ale] studies (and I have shown Jewett how this can be done; when I speak of the need of it, … of it; I have fact to refer to) introduced to the … in connection with the … of V[assar]. F[emale]. C[ollege]. and giving the founder the honor of … his …, to accomplish such a definite purpose (its not what it is for?) I would haveall my working plans & course of studies - Each subject to be taught specified, and how to be taught - - prepared, & …, in every development before electing teachers: ( and not want for them to teach ,me what should be taught, & how taught) and I would have the teachers elected to carry out the founders wishes, in a fixed specified way or not at all. Jewett elects the teachers first, they mark out their own work. Of course as they are elected to do nothing, in any special manner, they are not accountable to any one for their manner of teaching, and may do as they choose Do they do nothing flagrant. I would, having carefully, day by day, … with the founder such points as I know he wished to reach. Do reach them by incorporating them into my system as laws. So that the professors when chosen, shall be chosen under them, … to our … of not conforming to them. Who shall say that your teacher of anatomy shall not teach “Homeopathy”, your teachers of moral philosophy “…” & your teacher of history “Infidelity” What shall done it from being a great rest of “Radicalism” instead of an exponent of truth. Let me [found] … voices here, and loud ones too. For must have some … of a safe ground before your teachers are here or you are not …, … the …. … of your gifts. Jewett don’t believe in brining future generations. I tell you you can’t be too safe, and you only prevent … to now this I wanted to see well done; and to arrange it all, I knew time & labor, & daily con==ference were …. Hence my proposal to Jewett. I come to carry out his plan, … other labor is needed than to [elect] teachers and give them pencil & paper, and in a day you have all the organization that you want. Of course my interference in such a work is ridiculous. It is an impertinent offer of help when none is wanted. I thought I was working for something alive, but the birth is turning out an abortion, let those who beget it, father it, with all my heart. So you see sector disagree, & I give it up, hoping for the best. But what V[assar]. F[emale]. C[ollege]. is to … for the memory of its founder & the good of the world; beyond being a liberal …, to build the biggest building for … purposes, in the country I can’t perceive. To organize, & appoint your teacher without having everything elaborated, and …; and then paper into law, but the Trustee at your request is to have anarchy, & confusion, & nothing … Trust upon it that your college shall have a purpose, shall be something, and be felt in the … and see to while in vigorous health, that the work is done well. Let you should misunderstand me, and be let to look upon my proposition to Mr J. as of a character with such Bs. I wish to … that I purposed to compensation for my labors, excepting the refunding of … expenses … by myself, and that I also … stated that I did not want any election, or appointment to any [office] whatever in the matter, all such things were to the future. In fact I intended to make a deep … proposition, though from Mr J letter I think it wasn’t so … …. we will let no one but my Amanda, read this letter or know its content, besides yourself. “Watch & Pray,” This is an important time in your college history, and I am not by any means certain that Mr J. is up to the demands of the …. If you have any special work to accomplish for your college at your organization, in the time to announce & perfect it- With which warning, I close my voluntary labor in V. F> C. writing it well, and many years of as bright happenings to its … founder, as … man can properly receive. From My Chal. A. RaymondRev!! Leh A. Raymond March 13 1863 Important on new … ….
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Creator: Raymond, Charles A.
Date: September 16, 1862
Text: Newburgh Sept 16. 1862 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend I have thought of your “settlement day” to day, for the College. And of the great burdens which you had imposed upon yourself when you might have relieved your declining years of them. And I must say, that if you in your own view, wee financially depressed, in that of all good intelligences you were morally elevated. You have the high example of our great Exemplar, who “when he suffered, suffered not for Himself.” And is not this also...
Show moreNewburgh Sept 16. 1862 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend I have thought of your “settlement day” to day, for the College. And of the great burdens which you had imposed upon yourself when you might have relieved your declining years of them. And I must say, that if you in your own view, wee financially depressed, in that of all good intelligences you were morally elevated. You have the high example of our great Exemplar, who “when he suffered, suffered not for Himself.” And is not this also being in sympathy with him? I have myself had experience of some new feelings. Very mortifying, very painful, but I hope very purifying as all chastening ought to be. I have realized as never before how blessed a thing it must be to be able to relieve the wants of others. And forone of the few periods of my lie I have wished I too was rich, that I might make others feel grateful. Anyhow I know what want is. Though not starving. But then so many other people are in the same situation that one has no sympathy. Don’t you want to educate some smart girls for teachers in Vassar Colege[sic]? Think of this suggestion which will do me a good turn, and the others benefited, and not hurt the College. Anyhow it will be as cleared as available as Doct[or] B[ishop]’s plan, and quite as practical, though not similar. If you have any relations, or perteges[proteges], that would like to be prepared for teachers, let me prepare them at Hamilton, and let then expense there, be repaid by their own services as teachers, when you open. This is often done where some freind[sic] wishes to educate or a teacher, some deserving girl. And the girl giving an obligation to that effect, pays by teaching afterward. Notice that I claim no merit for the suggestion, and confess, that I am just looking for pupils in the suggestion.I leave for Hamilton to night or tomorow[sic] morning. I have money enough for the present, having financiered[financed] the matter through by force of circumstances without borrowing. That is I have given notes which I must pay, some other day, and which will be as thorns in my pillow till paid. Then I have lost all self respect and feel like a beggar. Do you know I went to your house she then any feeling like a whipped dog? Or at least feeling as one looks. I couldn’t screw my feelings for a second visit, so I sent Charlie. When I get away, I will write you something more cheerful and hopeful. I intend before this to submit for your comfort the considerations pro & con, concerning an endowment for your College, i.e. beyond the amount necessary to keep your buildings in repair. There are strong things to be said on the side of not endowing to pay salaries. And I think you would like to hear them ifyour securities are in danger of being sacrificed. Write me at Hamilton. Make my regards to Mr. Swan, and salute Miss Amanda. Katie was delighted with her parasol “thanks Miss Amanda a dollar.” Susan may tell how grateful children can be Yours Truly Chas[Charles] A. Raymond [This part is upside down] 1862 Rev[erend] Raymond Newburgh Sept 16
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: May 20, 1863
Text: Hamilton May 20. 1863. Matthew Vassar Esqr My dear friend I should have written you some time ago, had I not heard that you health was such, that you were not able to [sustain] any correspondence requiring much thought: but having heard from Prof. Reebee that you seemed to be in usual health, and appeared quite young and vigorous, I have decided to make certain suggestions to you which seem to me of great importance to the purpose welfare of your enterprise. I am reluctant to do this for the...
Show moreHamilton May 20. 1863. Matthew Vassar Esqr My dear friend I should have written you some time ago, had I not heard that you health was such, that you were not able to [sustain] any correspondence requiring much thought: but having heard from Prof. Reebee that you seemed to be in usual health, and appeared quite young and vigorous, I have decided to make certain suggestions to you which seem to me of great importance to the purpose welfare of your enterprise. I am reluctant to do this for the reason, that I seem always placed in the position of the man at the most head whose … it is to any “breaker ahead.” and I didn’t like to be always on such …. But someone must give warning, no matter how unpleasant; and if the breaker are there better to know it, than to have the ship sink. I do not like the [scheming], and … rolling propensities of some among your board of trustees, from Doct. B. …, and upwards. From what I infer from some of Mr Jewetts’ letters, these are great efforts being put forth to secure the election of certain …, among those who are trustees, or can influence Trustees, in the election of teachers. If teachers are propounded and elected under such influence, you will have associateda body of men, bound together by no mutual object, and working each man for his own emolument only. Under the new system of instruction which is to be inaugurated, there will be dissatisfaction, which will lead to compliant to the Trustees, and eventually to a wholesale distraction. I have always urged upon Mr Jewett, the … of counteracting all this, by means of your authority. and I am afraid that he does not see the subject as I do, and has therefore said but little on the subject to you. my opinion in that the Trustees have nothing to do in the matter of organization but to carry out your wishes. They are not like Trustees of a general fund, contributed by the public, who are to act for the public. and as long as you live, and have your own views to perfect they ought not to be permitted to interfere with your wishes. This is the high ground which I would assume as the …, and as you have a purpose in what you have done in establishing do great an enterprise, that purpose should be respected. If you are clear in your convictions, and … in the expression of your wishes, they cannot in decency fail to do as you wish. and how much contention & trouble, both present and future will be saved, by starting from so simple, and first a stand point, in completing your organization, as your wishes. I am prepared to submit to you a plan, with its details; by which alone in my opinion, you can start right, and keep right; and avoid all the anxieties and difficulties of selecting & electing your professors. and also secure the college against all contemptible scheming, & log-rolling, both now and hereafter. If it is not done before the time meeting, and by your own personal authority, co operating with Mr Jewett, it can never be done at all. and your college will be like other colleges, full of schemers, & jealous minded professors who will wear out your …, your self, & your whole enterprise, by their self produced frictions. To carry out my plan, you must start anew in the matter of teacher: ignore all pledges, and promises (made by Mr Jewett, and the Trustee) on the ground of … which have arisen and which were not foreseen until your organization of studies brought them to light and select an entirely new set of young men; who will work together, & be wholly under your [president], and be unknown but by reputation & references to the Trustee and presented by you as your choiceand for reasons which you will be prepared to give This is what I suggested in one of the first letter I wrote you last summer on the new system, of which Mr Jewett, has now adopted. It is a … past of that system, if it is to work successfully. You and he may both depend upon me for all the details, if you are prepared to adopt them; and for reasons why the plan should be adopted. I haven’t time now to write any thing more definite, but it is time to make such suggestion. I knew the time would come, and have been expecting it from the first. If you are not yet ready to receive the suggestion, it is because you are not near enough to your June meeting, to see what may appear when too late to remedy it I mean the plotting, and wire pulling, log-rolling, for places, for the friend of the Board of Trustees. The whole matter must be taken entirely out of their hands or everything is gone. Jewett will have to resign in three years, as … way land did at Brown. There is but one way, to carry out your wishes, establish … your ground purposes & defeat all selfish plotters. There must be inaugurated by the will of the Founder, a system of choosing, & managing teachers, which will make you … independent and …. Shall I say more upon the subject Your Truly Char. A. Raymond
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: September 22, 1862
Text: 1802 Chr. A. Raymond Hamilton 32 Sept Hamilton Sept 22 (Monday) Matthew Vassar Esqr Dear friend your very kind letter of the 18th just, was handed me by the P. Master to day, I suppose it came to the village Saturday night, but I was not at the office on Sunday. I hope the mail will prove more accommodating than they did at …. You allude to your depression of spirits for several days. But I am happy to see that your letter is more cheerful. I assure you that you deserve to feel happy and I...
Show more1802 Chr. A. Raymond Hamilton 32 Sept Hamilton Sept 22 (Monday) Matthew Vassar Esqr Dear friend your very kind letter of the 18th just, was handed me by the P. Master to day, I suppose it came to the village Saturday night, but I was not at the office on Sunday. I hope the mail will prove more accommodating than they did at …. You allude to your depression of spirits for several days. But I am happy to see that your letter is more cheerful. I assure you that you deserve to feel happy and I shall feel like taking … against fate if you do not. When I was in the theological seminary at New Haven I was much … with the first lecture which I attended. The subject of which was “God moral …” The question propounded for discussion was, “what is the highest … of happiness?” The answer was“…, — the voluntary imparting of happiness to other” “Hence god was perfectly happy, because entirely benevolent.” Upon this sound moral principle you certainly can learn happiness. But I poor mortal, was for two weeks not only depressed, but profoundly miserable. My very existence was a burden. Had there been none depending upon me, I would not have raised my hand to have saved my life. I never before feel poor, but for two weeks, I was as melted as if …. I am thankful that my apprehension were not selfish, but to think of those around me, as prospectively needed, almost caged me. I suppose nature exhausted … by drinking down into the lowest deep, you yesterday came a reaction, and to day I have felt more like a live man. Your kind letter sent as encouraging atmosphere before it, doubtless, and my reaction was caused by its prospective influence. It has also caused me to abandon my old notion, that no simple friendship can stand the test of a … draft upon it. Yours it seems had stood it when I had no securely to make good a … transaction. I need not distress you by … my gratitude. I have thought a great deal about your uneasiness concerning the … future of your College, as affected by the … of securities. And my views, which based upon what I have seen and experienced, are not of yesterday, would have been given you long ago, had i not felt, as if, I might possibly be … counter to some of bro. Jewett’s ideas upon the same subject, and i felt a delicacy … broaching them. When I saw you were really annoyed however I determined that as soon as I felt like myself, I would advance my suggestion letting them pass for what they were intrinsically worth. If you approve of them, and they seem to you sound, they will at least very much alleviate any future apprehension. Candidly then, I am of the decided connection that you could not do a more unfortunate thing that to leave Vassar College do liberally endowed that the teacher would be independent of their own [execution] for a support. Could you so endow your professorships, as to make them wholly independent of patronage, you would furnish portions for a class of men which would perhaps in time become mere [sinecure] for lazy incumbent. I know that the best of men, need incentive, need a … to …, or they will not half put forth their strength. There is no incentive like self interest, and you must make their support even, depend largely upon their effort, or you will never bring out and sustain half their energies. If you give your magnificent building, furnished free of rent, and endow the building with a … sufficient to preserve it, with its grounds & furniture in perfect repair forever, with an additional amount to renew library & apparatus and absolutely refuse to endow professorships making your teachers earn by their success their salaries, and giving them all they can earn, to be divided among them according to a certain distribution the proportions of which shall be fixed by law. You will have done more to keep up a lively and successful institution than if you endowed your professorship with a million of dollars. You do not what lazy men, who will simply live and fatten on your bounty You want energy, talent, success and men who have such traits will make their own fortunes, with the opportunities you can give them. If you have any surplus, often endowing your building, let it be a fund the product of which shall educate forever, such poor talented girls as the Trustees may appoint, the fund paying their expenses, at the free prices fixed by your Trustees. If you have not such a surplus, still you have enough, if you have paid for your building furniture, & provided for their preservation. Thus much for the subject ofof the majority are enthusiastic in their admiration of my course of study, and system of instruction, the same that I suggested to you as the “University System”. I enclose you and editorial notice from one of the Hamilton Papers to show that “Things in a working”. Your containing check for $250 came to hand to day. It tumbled out of your letter as I opened it, and gave me a decided …. It was really an agreeable “shock” and I fell still more like a man for receiving it; it has certainly made me feel …, like a forsaken … …, who could not see his way clear from failure and disgrace. I shall try to make it for you a good investment, bring … you in, not only equivalent dollars, but a haven’t of grateful thought, & kind memories. My regards to my Amanda and the assurance that I shall write her a long letter as soon as we get in a quiet state. I don’t …, but I have wished twenty times for her talent in making everything about a house so cheerful. endowing professorship in general. If I had … million dollars I would not do it, if I wished for a … of high reputation which would be progressive, and lead the age. I would endow the building, so that the furniture should be renewed, grounds preserved, and every department of social & educational life lack nothing for the material of successful labor. Then let your teachers make their … by their reputation, and you will have an institution with a … reputation and never …. It is easy to perfect the minute details for such an arrangement, if once decided upon. They shall be elaborated, and given whenever you call for them. Sept. 25. Thursday I was … … by company while writing the above on the evening of the 22nd. The next day I went to … to meet … & babies. All arrived safely on Wednesday, though much …. Mr …/… with her husband, who have remained … to ship the …, will follow with two boys soon … has gone back to the …, and is … … …. We are getting things in some order for a beginning. The professorsmy house cleaning and house arranging talent … elevated g…. And such servants as we have here, are … I … note, & must stop, though not half through. I wish … I could see you both again. Truly from Chal. A. Raymond
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: February 24, 1863
Text: 1863 Chs a Raymond ... Hamilton July 24 1863 Matthew Vassar My new friend … my very huge … with my … concerning the organization of the twenty department of V[assar]. F[emale]. C[ollege]. I have suggested to him among other things plans for the formation of a picture gallery and … of natural …, which I wish to present to you more in detail, that if they meet your approve, you may insert upon their being accomplished. and to begin with the picture or art gallery. In connection with your...
Show more1863 Chs a Raymond ... Hamilton July 24 1863 Matthew Vassar My new friend … my very huge … with my … concerning the organization of the twenty department of V[assar]. F[emale]. C[ollege]. I have suggested to him among other things plans for the formation of a picture gallery and … of natural …, which I wish to present to you more in detail, that if they meet your approve, you may insert upon their being accomplished. and to begin with the picture or art gallery. In connection with your college and its workings, you have a sure opportunity of becoming at the same time a munificent patron of art; and … of forming a gallery of paintings which in time, may become not … celebrated, than the college itself. The idea is very simple. You will of course have a professor, or at least a principal teaches of painting. A mere teacher of painting if a good one, would cost from live to eight hundred dollar a year if a lady if a gentleman ten or twelve hundred. Now such a teacher would be no more useful as an instructor than a young lady who would cost you three or four hundred. You would pay the additional form or … hundred you simple ability to …, or style. But a person of real … … would ... reluctantly to the terrible drudgery of teaching girls, The principal … of which teaching … to in painting the … for them. The labors of such a principal teacher of painting therefore would … … …. … and though useful to a degree, yet you would have nothing to … you it. … of this, I propose the following. You have a gallery for exhibiting pictures … as a part of your institution. To … it you … purchase perhaps a few good pictures, but not many, but you will form it in this way. You appoint a professor of painting, as the same salary as your other professor, who may teach by … upon art as a part of his …, but his from upon … to from you gallery by painting original pictures, & copying … celebrated works as you wish for art studies. This profs must he a first …. not a teacher of painting and the special contract made with him would be that he is to paint for your gallery, at a … salary, and you hire all his …. Such a position would be a paradise to most artist, and you would have no trouble in focusing any6 one almost. Historical … painters alone … … the position, and they are not after … of their bread. The advantage to the … studying painting would be that they would see this artist paint …, and this is the only way to learn how to paint, … by seeing some one … paint. I have mentioned … of W Haven to Mr Jewett, as perhaps a suitable person and I … know but … who painted the pilgrim fathers for … and who … new here would also be suitable. The position would be very much like that of their at … point, truly the would work for the college. Think what a collection of … … manage went you might thus have in ten, twenty forty years! and at really no increased expense. This is what you want, to live in the future generations, and have an eye to posterity. The same principles are applicable to your museum of nat[ural] …. You need not spend large sums of money for collection of …. This may do for a mere show collection, but you want something which will in time be an amusement to the age, now how will you do this! Why I instead of buying any ones collection which may fall to pieces in five years, (for … are good for nothing … well, preserved) and paying a large sum, you simply by the …, a man who are … it is to collect … specimens. The … at home, goes to market and get all the …, to N. Y. market and get … … has Barton market next … makes exertions, to … part of the neighborhood Skins & stuffs everything! Exchanges with other curators, & you have in five years, a collectionworth as many thousand dollars, and all the time it has cost you no more than to employ a man, to take care of those for had purchased. Think again in twenty, fifty years what you would have, Keeping a man … constantly employed. In fact you need not spend over one thousand dollars to make a suitable stand in such things. … you wish to do everything at a …, "… … twelve the first time" The time wisdom for founder of such … is to lay broad … foundations, for future measure. These are the things which you should provide for by your own personal …. I have written much to you lately concerning the great and good things which may be hoped for from your magnificent enterprise. But I have been doing a very great amount of work for it and Mr Jewett has the results so far. I thought your own cases would be enough for you to think of . Still I am very anxious that certain things should be done soon, which no one but yourself can do. My regards to my Amanda and let me know whether you are making much … in your college affairs. Make an effort and write a letter. You haven't written one such as you … to … in a long time. It will do you good to … up the … a little, and let us have some great and … purposes …, which are perhaps lying dormant within you- Truly yours Charles R Raymond
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: May 24, 1863
Text: Let no one but my Amanda see there paper. Hamilton May 24. 1863 … My dear friend, I send the copy of a letter upon the subject of your college matters, because I want you to understand fully the points which belong to that side of you question; and in addition I want you to understand definitely some others matters which concern the founder of the college, and his future reputation. There have been, all along, certain things calculated as I think to deprive you of that which is rightly yours...
Show moreLet no one but my Amanda see there paper. Hamilton May 24. 1863 … My dear friend, I send the copy of a letter upon the subject of your college matters, because I want you to understand fully the points which belong to that side of you question; and in addition I want you to understand definitely some others matters which concern the founder of the college, and his future reputation. There have been, all along, certain things calculated as I think to deprive you of that which is rightly yours due, and which I have tried to remedy, but had not the ability or power, within myself. and you must at last be the guardian of your own future reputation, and secure your right by your own … and revolution. You may be a little worried by the matte,r but the results will more than compensate you. You must decided and act now, or it will soon be too late. This coming June meeting will place the thing beyond your reach. These are the points. Do you wish to have your name go down to posterity as the intelligent founder of a college, endowed … by you, for no special purpose at all, excepting, that Mr Jewett prevailed on you to do it. Or do youwith to appear, as having acted with a purpose which was not only intelligent, but wise, sagacious, & benevolent? Of course you will say “You wish the truth to appear, and as you were no main tool, so you will be no mans’ steeping stone, to a reputation which is purely your own. now who is the author of the system which Mr Jewett … so highly, and … he hopes to gain credit for introducing into V[assar].F[emale].C[ollege]? I do not mean who made the system, but who first suggested it for your institution, and accepted it as the thing best adapted to its want! IF you did not do it, while Mr J[ewett] was in Europe and before he knew anything about the details of the matter, then you and I are too very mistaken individuals. as to the work of convincing Mr. J[ewett] of the excellency of the system; of making out its details, and adapting them to his purpose, I did all that, not for his reputation, but for yours, and because I knew what would meet your views and wishes. You had certain ideas, often expressed in your conversation to me, which you wished carried out in the college you had founded. You needed help, for the habits of your life had been such that you were not familiar with the practical details of such work of organizing a college for young ladies. Mr Jewett never could have done what you wished, and therefore I did it for you through him. To whom now belongs the honor, certainly to you, and to me if to anyone. But I do not wish to be known in the matter. What I have done, I have done cheerfully for you. I give it to you, it is yours, for you deserve it. So that really, by the gift of my share, and the right to your own, the whole is yours. now what I want is this. I want you to assume the credit of the whole general system as yours. I want the college with its system of instruction, handed down to the future generations, as the in its entire & complete whole, the offspring of the sagacity, and benevolence of Mr Vassar and of no one else. I am indignant than any one should wish to claim the …, more than body.that any one should suppose that you have given … for …, and knew nothing of the purpose for which you have it. When I know that your ideas upon the subject of a great reform in Fem[ale] Education, were original, sagacious, wise, & true, and you lacked only some one to shape them into system. This I have done for you, made Mr Jewett a convert to your views, so that they could not be controverted, and have done it all for your own gratification alone, and no one but yourself, shall have the credit of the work. You will see form my letter to Mr J[ewett] accompanying how you are to do this. He won’t like my letter, but he can’t keep himself. He has got himself into the position he occupies, and must come to you to get him out. Of course you will do this, and about tw weeks before your meeting I will, come down and spend if you wish a week with you, and keep you on your … to the Trustees, and see that your affairs are all in order, to secure your rights in the matters. You will find that you have had no timer friend, nor … in this matter of your college - not even among those who are supported by your liberality and who hope for increased support - than myself and that your own reputation, is a little safer with me, than with some who Hand nearer to your …. you may depend upon me, for any thing you may wish in this matter. Your Truly Char. A. Raymond
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Creator: Raymond, Charles A.
Date: August 25, 1862
Text: Newburgh Aug 25. Monday. M. Vassar Esq. Dear Friend I have put time to report the results of my visit to Hamilton, and announce my return on last Friday evenig[evening]. I was much pleased with the country and had a very cordial welcome from those interested in Educational matters. I spent the week at Doct. Eaton’s. Preached “one of my best sermons” on Sunday as Miss Amanda said I would. Attended some of the commencement Exercises, but was occupied most of the time in negociating[sic] with a ...
Show moreNewburgh Aug 25. Monday. M. Vassar Esq. Dear Friend I have put time to report the results of my visit to Hamilton, and announce my return on last Friday evenig[evening]. I was much pleased with the country and had a very cordial welcome from those interested in Educational matters. I spent the week at Doct. Eaton’s. Preached “one of my best sermons” on Sunday as Miss Amanda said I would. Attended some of the commencement Exercises, but was occupied most of the time in negociating[sic] with a “sick man” who was purprietor[proprietor], by default of the rest of the parties, of the Seminary. He wanted it seen badly. I told him I had no money to buy, at present, and if I had knew so little of the place, that in buying I might be “sold” myself. He result of two or threedays talking was, that I have rented the property for a year, praying the interest of what it cost him, with the privilege, at any time during the year, of purchasing upon very easy conditions. Every body thinks, a grand good thing can be made of it, and that I am the very man they have all the while been looking for. The Proprietor informed the rest of the Trustees after our first interview, that “I knew more about the business, than all the rest of them put together”, which I received as a compliment, Encouraging me to make a liberal bargain. I am in hopes of succeeding finely after the first session, but it takes a great deal of hand work, to resuscitate a collapsed affair. However as I have nothing else to do, the work would hurt me. I presented your letter to Judge Harris. He was very polite, and premised me any assistance in his power. Hesaid my claim was good, and would in time be paid, but I must wait for a special act of congress, to be passed perhaps in Dece[mber] next. This was Encouraging, but the certainty of getting, even a few hundred down, to aid in starting my new Enterprise would have been more so, than the future expectancy of so many thousands. But I must accept the slow shilling [&] I can’t have the nimble sixpence. He also Encouraged me very much, or intended to do so, by mentioning among others, Doct. Rich or Fuller of Balt[imore] who was so much worse off than I, by having to wait, that he was actually in want: We shall leave next month, as soon as we can get away. My regards to Miss Amanda, and many thanks both to you and her for all your kindness. It makes me rather sad to think I may not soon see you both again. May God bless you both. Yours Truly Chas[Charles] A. RaymondRev[erend] Ch[arles] A. Raymond Aug. 25. 1862
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: November 25, 1864
Text: 1862 Chr. A. Raymond 28 … Hamilton Nov 28 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend It seems hardly possible that a month her passed since receiving your last letter. No doubt but that with your multiplied case you have not … much such poor …, and I have been so busy about other small matters, pertaining mostly to the sometime … of teaching, that I have felt like doing little else. Teaching is very hard work in one …, for … all the time imparting, and at the same time trying to make an impression upon...
Show more1862 Chr. A. Raymond 28 … Hamilton Nov 28 Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend It seems hardly possible that a month her passed since receiving your last letter. No doubt but that with your multiplied case you have not … much such poor …, and I have been so busy about other small matters, pertaining mostly to the sometime … of teaching, that I have felt like doing little else. Teaching is very hard work in one …, for … all the time imparting, and at the same time trying to make an impression upon others. It is very … to the … system, and after making studying a few hours you feel as if “Virtue had gone out of you” — I seldom feel like writing letters at night after teaching all day. … … respite in given .. by thanksgiving holidays — and I improve the … in writing though so late. But where is miss Amanda! She is a more correspondent than I. She is certainly letting one … in neglect. i don’t … her hand any more, … the … with it. Has shen been enjoying a … from her … friend who has kept her hand all to himself? You were deciding about heating the College when you last wrote. What have you decided upon? I know all the objections to all other plans, but that of …. This I have never tried, and may … it to be the best. Which have you adopted? I believe we left off in the midst of the subject of “Paying professor”. I was trying to show you that an endowment was not necessary in order that they might be paid. That the right … would pay themselves. It seems that I proved to much, and you see that they … receive too high salaries. Practically I think they would not be excessively paid for the work they would …, & the … they would have. But you could modify the plan beyond a certain point. Though it is a question whether any … of the … would as effectively and the institution. … that you could ask of them ought to be to pay their own way, and take their own …, letting them have what they could make. … talent, would thus be repaid, and such cannot be had without paying for it. … a stay … the other day, containing a passing notice of the “College,” & of bro. Jewett. Send me any such notice that you don’t want. And by-the-way ask Miss Amanda to send me the papers that you take, when you have no further use for them. News is an item here, and no one take N. Y. papers. My … won’t stand a … draft, for … bills for them all, and it will be a work of benevolence for Miss Amanda, to save them from being corrected into … paper. She can let her light shine by making that me of her good work. She owe me more than that for not answering my letter. We are … here on a moderatescale. After getting under way, I think we can sail the ship to good profit. On the whole we don’t dislike the place. … a good place for …, but not much for sunshine. We have had five bright days since we have been here. When you come up next summer we shall hope for better weather. It is said to be delightful in summer. What are you doing for preaching now! And what is the local news about College Progress? I seem quite out of the world. Remember me to Mr Jewett and family when you see them, and the Prop when you write — Miss Amanda is another From Truly Cha. A. Raymond
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Creator: Raymond, Charles A.
Date: August 28, 1862
Text: Rev[erend] Ch[arles] A. Raymond Aug 28, 1862 Newburgh Aug 28. Thursday Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend On the principle that “misfortune makes a man acquainted with strange bed-fellows” I certainly have got into one of the most confounded …, that a man of sense could well get himself involved in. If it wasn’t humiliating, it would be ludicrous. I certainly have “put my foot in”, this time. I can’t either go ahead, or stand still. It is a case of decided “quondary”[sic], but I don’t see the way...
Show moreRev[erend] Ch[arles] A. Raymond Aug 28, 1862 Newburgh Aug 28. Thursday Matthew Vassar Esq Dear Friend On the principle that “misfortune makes a man acquainted with strange bed-fellows” I certainly have got into one of the most confounded …, that a man of sense could well get himself involved in. If it wasn’t humiliating, it would be ludicrous. I certainly have “put my foot in”, this time. I can’t either go ahead, or stand still. It is a case of decided “quondary”[sic], but I don’t see the way out at all. And as this is a money case, I will say at the outset, that I never beg or borrow from my freinds[sic]. So I am not after a “friendly loan”. You must understand the question at the start or you will think I have given the great army of Pious leeches, who pray for you; that they may prey upon you. Business is business. If you can commend me to some shylock, who will take his power of flesh as it is in the bond”.say to your kind nephew, who loves a good per cent, why I can submit, and groan; but only upon such business principles. This isn’t in your line, and the “friendly loan” isn’t in mine, so I’ll proceed, and you won’t misunderstand me. Of course I didn’t expect to go up to Hamilton without some money. Of course I couldn’t do so. I must pay up sundry little leakages here which are nothing when you are going to stay, but count up when they come all together as you are going to leave. I must have also enough, to be above asking credit among strangers, after reaching Hamilton, where my supplies must be purchased. Then there was the expense of moving my great family & getting settled again. [In short] I knew I should need put about five hundred dollars, and as far as I can still see, I was not mistaken. Of course I was to get this money, not out of my own pocket, where it wasn’t, but out of my good mothers’ where it was & is. I am afraid, is to remain, anticipating such necessity, upon any move which I might make, I went to see her, & learn the facts concerning her finances, having never enquired therein, in fact thinking it indelicate to do so, until therewas some necessity. I found that her father had left her a competency, in the hands of Trustees, to be divided at her death among her children. And as I was entitled to me this at her death, & she had more than she could spend, & her other children, not having need of any, could not be wronged, I proposed to draw for my share while I needed it, which was now,in the poverty in which the war had for a time left me. She like a good woman consented to this, and I left feeling sure that I had some three or four thousand if I needed it, to fall back upon, in any safe proceeding. So I went to Hamilton, entered into writings, issued my circular & advertisements, saying I was going to Hamilton etc. Wrote to mother that I was ready for five hundred to start with, expected it would come yesterday, when lo! came a letter instead, full of sympathy but no money, & conveying these interesting facts. “That my Uncle her Trustee, who had loaned most of her money to his sons - engaged in manufacturing - wouldn’t consent, to her calling in, or realiying[sic] it, now, nor to her selling any stacks to raise it. And she was powerless to aid me”. This Uncle is the one who drove poor Father to his excesses, by his severity & hardness, and if he were not now a veryold man, my weak human nature waned like to give him a caning. The more so as I have no contempt left to lavish upon him, having exhausted all upon old scores. The facts are thus as you see, that mothers’ good intentions, are met by simple impossibilities, for the money, though secure, is under his control as Trustee, and he has loaned it to his own sons who in these times can’t raise an extra dollar. Now isn’t this beautiful? I can’t stay here. I have advertized[sic] to leave, I can’t go. I haven’t the means. It is ludicrous, and yet it is most mortifying and distressing. Now what is to be done. My first impulse was to write to Hamilton, tell them I was disappointed and couldn’t meet my engagements. But that is a litter Pile to an upright and proud man - to say “can’t” when you ought”, and then I have dismissed my school here, & have no income if I remain. The next thing to consider, what I can sacrifice to raise within a week $500. I have some thousands in good receipts, could I not assign that as security for as many hundreds? I have nothing else but my household furniture worth a thousand dollars, which I might mortgage for five hundred. The perspect[prospect] in a business way looks dark. I certainly ma caught, where I least expected it. Can you experience & tact tell me what to do? I shall leave Saturday to Preach in Phild[Philadelphia] at the first Chh[Church] Sunday. Let me find a letter when I come back. I believe your nephew makes advantageous loans, sometimes. What must I offer to make him think it safe, & am object. My love to Miss Amanda, and don’t tell her what a scrape I have stumbled into. Yours Truly Chas[Charles] A. Raymond
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: December 29, 1862
Text: man through the … of the northern mind for novelty, especially in preaching. By invitation I preached in the chapel of the university a few sundays … The next week some of the older students were at my house, and attempted to [flather] me by saying; 'it was considered the finest specimen of pulpit oratory ever given in their chapel'. I cannot tell for how peculiarly let down, I was by the nature of the … I was anxious that my effort should approve itself to the student and Profs[sor...
Show moreman through the … of the northern mind for novelty, especially in preaching. By invitation I preached in the chapel of the university a few sundays … The next week some of the older students were at my house, and attempted to [flather] me by saying; 'it was considered the finest specimen of pulpit oratory ever given in their chapel'. I cannot tell for how peculiarly let down, I was by the nature of the … I was anxious that my effort should approve itself to the student and Profs[sor] for a special reason, but not in the way [reported]. What I did attempt was this; I had often insisted in my criticism upon preaching here, that these was very little of the preaching of the gospel in the northern pulpit: - that I had heard a great deal of preaching about god, human right, and moral duty; but very little of the preaching of the [crop] of … on the hope of man. So I selected as my subject The … of Xth suffering happening & death. as illustrating my idea of preaching the gospel — after [typing] hand to preach church; to be complemented upon my elocution, & oratory, … … a very questionable complement. But all this is in keeping with what seems to me the degeneracy of the northern pulpit. The fact is the [Beecher, & Parking, & …] have had a most [debasing] effect upon the ministry. The essay [slective] styles of preaching, have … the manner; while aboli==tionism, spiritualism, transcendentalism have poisoned the matter of the preaching to such an extent, that the wonder is that infidelity is not more outspoken and rampant, rather than as it is, the pervading essence of such preaching. The fact is the new sentiment[sic] is but little more than a convenience to [purge] a text upon, while [Packer], and …, & [Beecher] are the great models; and popularity the great end to be achieved. Perhaps I don’t see right but I hardly ever go to church, that my spirit is not … within me, at the ... like idolatry of the worshippers. There must come a reaction, or we are a lost people. No wonder the … of … people, is an deplorable as it is. It is a comment on the practical infidelity of the age. … has been that out from the pulpit; and the people have been taught higher law, & specious… for the gospel. Religion has found new exponents, and is called in to reach human sight, & not human salvation; and the land is bathed in blood! Thus god leaves men to their own … way when they turn from him. I am [conscious] that all this is very much like … [evoking]; but it is what I can't help feel and see. and perhaps I see is the more plainly, because I have not been made the influence of the graduating … by which … … have been … [reached]. Fifteen years absence, and development, in a society the spirit of which is eminently [conservative]; make the contrast between what was, and what is, in the northern pulpit, the more …. I don’t wish to … and find fault, but it is true, that the amount of infidelity, which has overspread the land is awful. Infidelity not only in religion; but in science - social, moral, and political. Education faces but little better especially female education- the … are full of [puff], but superficial, one sided, and unnatural. As is women, at least most women, … even need to spend their whole strength upon mathematics, logic, and the principles of debate. But they are taught, & drilled in these better & … carefully, that in anything … hence the public feeling, & strong minded sisterhood. The idea of a … … being … to debate with him. Beautiful prospect for young bachelors-my paper is gone-love to my amanda … Char. A. Raymond
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: April 4, 1864
Text: C. A. R. to M. V. ap. 3. 1864 Paymaster General’s Office, Washington, Sunday Evening April 3 1864 M. Vassar Esqr. My dear Sir, Your of the 19th letter reached me this morning. By a slight mistake it was directed Post Maker General Office, and hall I not seen it advertised it would probably have gone to the “tomb of the capulets.” I was very sorry to hear from my amanda of the death of good Mr Booth. … will he sincerely affected by the sad news. She was very fond of fun …, and never spoke of...
Show moreC. A. R. to M. V. ap. 3. 1864 Paymaster General’s Office, Washington, Sunday Evening April 3 1864 M. Vassar Esqr. My dear Sir, Your of the 19th letter reached me this morning. By a slight mistake it was directed Post Maker General Office, and hall I not seen it advertised it would probably have gone to the “tomb of the capulets.” I was very sorry to hear from my amanda of the death of good Mr Booth. … will he sincerely affected by the sad news. She was very fond of fun …, and never spoke of her but with the greatest affection. I think I have already suggested the course of procedure which it seems to me is the only one practicable, concerning the subject matter of your request. I at … quite fully upon the subject to Ms Swan. you may not have seen that letter, I will repeat in substance my notion, though perhaps I … to add that further reflection has … modified my views rather by adding to than talking away anything thenIt does seem possible to me, while I am here in Washington, to prepare with sufficient … such a plan as … with. It is a work requiring great care and must be done in pokeepsie, in communication with yourself, and some of the leading members of the committees can be connected. See it will be work done in the clark and as shall enough of that, … unite while working for Mr Jewett, I certainly do not wish to appear that experience if I can avoid it. Nor is it necessary, nor possible, that that part of the work should be done secretly. It is not to be supposed that you will yourself originate the details, and the systematizing of the organization. You could not be expected to do it. Nor could any of your Trustees. It is wholly the work of a professional expert. and no one else can do it. But the object you wish to have accomplished, and the principles to be kept in view, may be your own. These principles, covering the ground you with occupied, I have already thrown into form, for you special guidance in expressing your wishes to whoever may be found able to work out an organization for you. and I do not see, how under the circumstances anything more is necessary. With regard to the work which you request - I have thought more fully upon my previous suggestion upon that point, and upon the subject generally, and I think candor to you and Trustee to myself, requires from me a plan statement. I have done all that it is possible for me, or any one to do, as a simple friend, and promoter of the enterprise. The work which you now require, is the legitimate work of whoever is to be your president, and so indeed is all, that I have ever done, by special request. But M Jewett is not competent, even if otherwise qualified for his position, to meet your worker. Before anything further is done then in the way of organization, let him be removed; and see if you can find a competent … within a reasonable period. If you cannot, and I can get a three months leave of absence, with a continuance of my salary, and I am formally united by your committee as your request, I will cheerfully devote the time, whom compensation to your service. But I would much prefer for the present, that you wouldtry someone else, so as to see if I am necessary. any man who aspires to the position which Mr Jewett has … much … respectable them it was ought to understand from working over the notes which you can now … up, the objects which you wish accomplished. and from the principles which I have embodied of you, he can tell, whether he can arrange a working organization for your college, to meet your views as founded upon those principles. If he cannot, you don’t want him. If he can, let him be invited to do it, with the understanding that if successful in doing so, he is to carry out his own arrangement. For it ought to be understand candidly and fairly, that as no one could practically carry out my views but myself, so even if I had the time to give all the details of a working plan of organization it would involve the … of putting it in practice myself to make it successful = (David and Saul … must be remembered) and that in a receipt which neither you the Trustees, nor myself, might under present circumstances find it agreeable to yield to. These are upon reflection my ideas and they must go for what they are worth. Very possibles the committee and the Trustees could … in that light, and ver possibly offer my three months work, it would all go for nothing, because they couldn’t select, From the point to which matter have now reached, it will be better for all, that done one, selected by the committee, should be called in to form a plan of organization upon the principles expressed by you, and in accordance with your wishes. If no one can be found, having done the … you can, and failed, you will know then where you can … look for assistance. You certainly need my assurance of that. Wish best regards to miss amanda and mr S. Your very truly Char. A. Raymond
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: July 30, 1862
Text: July 30th 1862. Revd Charles Raymond My dear friend. I thank you very Kindly for your valued favor of the 15th current Your sugges- tions concerning the plan of organization of officials in the V. F. College are deserving much attention and the more I have reflected and studied them the more they have commended themselves to my judgment and approbation &c I now specially allude to the Office of Vice President, but hope that the discussion of this question or any other between you and me...
Show moreJuly 30th 1862. Revd Charles Raymond My dear friend. I thank you very Kindly for your valued favor of the 15th current Your sugges- tions concerning the plan of organization of officials in the V. F. College are deserving much attention and the more I have reflected and studied them the more they have commended themselves to my judgment and approbation &c I now specially allude to the Office of Vice President, but hope that the discussion of this question or any other between you and me on the subject of the or- ganization of the College or its discipline, may be ex- amined and freely discussed independent of any sinister motives, and candor impels me to say and acknowledge that thus far you have evinced the utmost impartiality and unselfishness. It is now however a proper time for me to express my private thoughts, therefore I assume the authority to express them that I know of no man whom in my judgment could fill the place of the V. P. better than yourself nor one in whom I could most cheerfully concur in that appointment and after writ- ing out my views somewhat in detail on this subject to our President Prof. Jewett in my last letter, I thus signified my opinion and my wishes. However this matter must now remain open for further and action untill Prof. Jewett return when we shall take it up again,and within the present year may be able to make you a proposition that will meet your en- tire approbation—my reasons I shall assign for advo- cating your appointment to that department in the Col- lege that the " Suggestion " of such an office first came from you, Secondly, that your large experience in Fe- male Education entitles your opinion and judgment to more than ordinary consideration. There is a philoso- phy common to us business men, never to loose a good paying customer, we often Classify on our Ledger our patrons, to the poor paying ones we are always short of the article, to the good paying ones never. Now ap- ply this rule to our College working plans of Teachers there are those who are not only qualified to teach but can exert an influence in the Institution more than equivalent to the compensation they may receive, for I hold it to be a demonstrative fact that if our College rise to meet the public largest claims and expectations it will be through its moral and religious aspect rather than its intellectual, for as you justly remark, we have had experience enough in the latter " Good general theories of education are good as far as they go, but we want more practical life invigorating Knowledge specimens of which may here and there be seen altho' nota graft or scion from a College or a University Stock. I need not however extend my remarks on this subject your experience of 18 years to the Profession of teaching " Young ideas how to shoot" will amply qualify you to judge collectively about such matters, and I am happy to think that my friend Mr Raymond have not only a supply of the comodity (of good Tui- tion) but know how to impart it. Now, I am ready for a " Barter of your Wares " they will allways be needed and you have an abundant supply, and the Col- lege has the means for exchange of Comodities with you, besides they have Scites on which to erect com- fortable residences for their Professors—this last sug- gestion I am also indebted to you for, by the adoption of which much room would be saved in the College buildings for subordinate Instructors, Pupils &c be- sides surrounding the College and Grounds with a cordon of defences both of ingress and egress against intruders on the premises, but I have already extended these remarks beyond my original object, which was simply to acknowledge your favor, leaving all com- ments for a private interview. We shall be happy to see you when convenient with your friends. With my best regards to Mrs R. and the new Stranger. I remain dear Sir Yours truly
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Transcriber(s): Linner, Edward R.
Date: July 30, 1862 - April 3, 1864
Text: The Vassar-Charles A. Raymond Correspondence 1862 - 1864 [Typescripts prepared by Edward R. Linner, Prof. Emeritus of Chemistry, in 1977/78]

Creator: Raymond, Charles A.
Date: August 6, 1862
Text: Newburgh Aug 6. Wednesday My dear Mr Vassar On reaching home yesterday, after a week’s absence to visit my good mother in N[ew] Haven, I found your very kind letter awaiting me. Your good opinion of me is certainly very kindly expressed & very comforting in my self. I don’t know that you can flatter as well as our good freind[sic] the Doctor, but you certainly can say a kind thing in a way that is pleasing, because manifestly honestly thought, and well & sincerely expressed! As for...
Show moreNewburgh Aug 6. Wednesday My dear Mr Vassar On reaching home yesterday, after a week’s absence to visit my good mother in N[ew] Haven, I found your very kind letter awaiting me. Your good opinion of me is certainly very kindly expressed & very comforting in my self. I don’t know that you can flatter as well as our good freind[sic] the Doctor, but you certainly can say a kind thing in a way that is pleasing, because manifestly honestly thought, and well & sincerely expressed! As for the future, never mind that, “we shall see what we shall see.” I have come home sick with cold, head aching, throat as if scraped and general [distress]. I can’t go away, I can’t talk, and so I have [heard through] in writing for your consideration the accompanying Prof. Jewett has often heard me expressthe same opinions, and he agrees with me in sentiment. Most Teachers, Especially those who have seen only the system of our American Colleges, sooner be afraid to try to make such an innovation. I shouldn’t wonder ‘of’ all your Trustees, Especially the “Rochester”, & “Bronn” men, however would adopt it almost with an acclamation. Especially if they thought it would work well with girls. Jewett, I am sure, after returning from Europe, where the University system prevails, will see how it can be applied to Girls and Commend it. So you need have no fear that what commends itself w[ith] your practical sense is not also … with College Professors. The system has introduced with this country from Europe by Thos[Thomas] Jefferson, when he fathered the Univ’s[universities] of Virginia, and I am told that Dict. Maryland has published a book also depending it. Mr Abbott of the Spingler Institute N. Y. after hearing some explanations of8 the system as in vogue in the Chaperone Coll[ege] Mr. said “I have been trying all my life w[ith] set[ting] up such a system as that in N. Y. but I don’t knowhow to do it.” “I feel the want of it, but I can’t accomplish it.” And he is not alone. I think it gives a great openning[sic] for Vassar College to make itself felt at once, and I hope for wide feet, how [experienced] it will be to stand at once so high, as w[ith] make competition & even comparison impossible. However don’t say anything on the subject w[ith] anyone but M. Jewett. Some one Else may “steal our thunder” before we are ready. It seems there is a female Seminary at Hamilton in Madison Co[unty] wanting a hear. I forward a letter from Doct[or] Eaton on my return home explaining its advantages to me. The building is a fine one he says, & all things favorable, but I think it as town lot, & I want the country. Apropos. My good mother will place at my disposal a few thousand dollars, says three on form, if I can find a little farm which will suit me. I am coming up w[ith] learn from you something about such matters. In the mean time if any little place comes to your notice, bear me in mind. I’ll come up as soon as I get well Enough. Truly Yours [Charles] A. Raymond 1862 [Charles] A. Raymonde Newburgh 6 August
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Creator: Vassar, Matthew, 1792-1868
Date: February 6, 1863
Text: Hamilton Feb 6, 1863 Matthew Vassar Esqr Dear Friend Though I haven’t written for some weeks, yet I have had your affairs more or [less] in mind. Especially the subject of paying your professors. I have very carefully thought over all the pros & cons of the whole matter; with special reference to your suggestions; and I give you the …. There were three plans to the …. 1. That of our endowment of professorships. This you do not approve. and we let it aside 2. The teachers partnership ...
Show moreHamilton Feb 6, 1863 Matthew Vassar Esqr Dear Friend Though I haven’t written for some weeks, yet I have had your affairs more or [less] in mind. Especially the subject of paying your professors. I have very carefully thought over all the pros & cons of the whole matter; with special reference to your suggestions; and I give you the …. There were three plans to the …. 1. That of our endowment of professorships. This you do not approve. and we let it aside 2. The teachers partnership [system], by which the profits are divided among the teacher. This you have under consideration, but don’t altogether like. It is however better than the endowment plan, for your purposes, and you have a complete schedule if you wish to adopt it. (It won’t however suit you … a …. plan as well as this 3. Which makes the college a sharer in the [profits], and the principal sharer, but for the benefit after all, of the teacher I think it expresses your … exactly. 1. You pay the professor a fixed salary 2. You do not make the college … liable for this, but on the contrary - you fix it so that it cannot be made liable. but you pay out of the net profits of the concern. i.e. you make … liable … for teachers salaries. 3. You hold the … profit succeed, to be … as a fund, for guaranteeing teachers salaries i.e. … deficiencies - in the future. and after the fund shall have reached a certain amount … 15000. the future … to be divided, … … among the teachers, in addition to stated guaranteed salaries 4. For the first five years, you (i.e. the Founder) make a special provision against deficiencies, so that the teachers salaries may be …. This gives all the certainty of an endowment, involves the … … in no … … objections - and … your [call]. Upon an elevated financial platform. It also makes it right that you should give somewhat … to your teachers, to whom the guarantee server in place of a "margin" for larger income. I think you will like this as a working arrage==ment. Your quick insight into practical … will enable you to grasp … advantages at once, and is meet by … originality, you … …. It provides for present …, is economical & safe, in … application; and has advantages over the plan which makes teachers partner in all profits. If it takes away the "margin" from the teacher income; it gives him … a guarantee. So the college is given the "margin", but the profits are made after all to … a guarantee which is to be perpetual to the teachers, after it begins …. It benefits the teachers … the … although they are made to guarantee …. while the college has the benefit. The important point upon which all this hangs is that the founder makes provision to place his own plan beyond the reach of failure, by securing to the twenties-aside from their [call]. Property, & also from the annual endowment of building & … a sum either, as special appropriation, or in …, to provide for possible deficiences of income (in this case hardly possible). … days to the twenties "gentlemen I prefer this plan to an endowment, I have considered it well, and am … that it is quit what we need; but as it is a new … in the … of colleges, and as I suggest it, I am willing to be responsible for it. I will provide for the making up of any deficiency which may be …-say for five years-or … the plan is thrown to be a …. While this presupposes the endowment of building … the former plan, & which is also of the very highest importance-It also requires that you exempt the property from liability for the fixed salary-while make special provision. The other feature of … a share of profit before a fund from … has been reached, can go … this plan if you so choose. Let me know what you think of this … for the former plan, and I should like to hear you suggestions as to its workings. I like it as a working plan, much letter than that which makes the teachers …! Still … a guarantee of fixed salary, you will have no choice but to let the teachers share the profits. They must be paid for taking the …. we are now going through some of our [intermediate] examinations, some of which when finished I will send you a ... of the system. With regards to my Amanda & …. Yours Truly Char. A. Raymond
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Creator: Raymond, Charles A.
Date: August 9, 1862
Text: 1864 Ch[arles] A. Raymond August 9th Newburgh Aug 9 (Saturday) Matthew Vassar Esq My dear Sir Since writing you last Wednesday, I have seen a son in law of Doct[or] Eaton of Madison Wiscon[son] and as the result of the interview, in which the probabilities of the “grand chance,” as Doct. Eaton terms it, presented to me by the Hamilton Fem[ale] Semy[Seminary] were very fully discussed, I have concluded, after seeing you, to visit Hamilton with him next week, and look for myself. We shall leave...
Show more1864 Ch[arles] A. Raymond August 9th Newburgh Aug 9 (Saturday) Matthew Vassar Esq My dear Sir Since writing you last Wednesday, I have seen a son in law of Doct[or] Eaton of Madison Wiscon[son] and as the result of the interview, in which the probabilities of the “grand chance,” as Doct. Eaton terms it, presented to me by the Hamilton Fem[ale] Semy[Seminary] were very fully discussed, I have concluded, after seeing you, to visit Hamilton with him next week, and look for myself. We shall leave for Hamilton on Wednesday, and I propose to run up to Pok[Poughkeepsie] in the Monday morning boat, and spend the day with you. Now do not think that I do not appreciate all your kindness, and favor towners myself in this looking, even temporarily as a new opening. For I assureyou, I have been deeply affected by your manifest partiality for me, the more so as it comes from me whom your opinion merely, I consider it so mean compliment to pofess[profess]. But I take this view of the matter. 1. I cannot feel contented to lose the time and energy that [sits] within me, by wasting another year, upon my little parlor school here. If insignificance frets me past Endurance, it does not pie my sympathies, nor employ my strength, nor even supply my pocket. It is a mere bumble, and I am anxious to feel that I am at work. So I shall not return in the coming year. 2. If you should need me at all, it will not be for some time to come, unless you will be ready to open your College, say a year from next month. If it were possible to have the building completed by that time, then it would be of the highest importance to have Every thing pertaining to your organization given is the [covered] as soon after Jan’y[January] next as possible. Your organization perfect; yourdetails all embodied in the form of a printed circular, which after M. Jewett, whom could be done, say, in two months. I could render you an untold amount of service, by canvassing the freed from whence your pupils will be drawn, preaching and thus introducing myself to the public on Sunday & visiting through the week, explaining and urging upon parents the true advantages of Vassar College. While Prof. Jewett & yourself were at home, attending to the important works of furnishing & completing building, grounds, etc. etc. Keeping up correspondence, & directing affairs generally. But if two years are to Elapse as I think you informed me, before doing there[those] things. Then I do not see how I can aid you very materially. And I might in the mean time be establishing another seminary, which would prove, one of the feeders of Vassar College. 3. Hamilton being one of the Educational centres of the state, and presenting some rare facilities, in the way of influence asaiding greatly in such an Enterprise, has many inducements for speedy results, over most of her points. Then I can there Educate my boys at home - which is important. These are the points which present themselves to me, as favorable. Then they have a fine building there, wholly furnished, and a school in operation numbering upon their Catalogue 100 pupils. They wish to raise its reputation, a peg or two higher - In which they hope clean [keep]. They give the whole income of the Principal. These are the points, which make me think favorable of a two years Effort there. I should select it as a better locality, than Long Branch, White Plains, or N. Y. City, in all which places behave, are offered me. I shall after talking over Educational matters, also beg to trouble you for a letter to Senator Harris, and any one else on my journey, or at Hamilton whom you know, and whose advice & aid will in your opinion assist me. My Compliments, and the Clerical Salute to Miss Amanda. If she wishes to worry her hair and anxious heart, over the dinner she is to give me on Monday, tell her nothing will suit me better than a bowl of bread & milk & some baker apples or pears, though I prefer your ordinary Dinner. But if she will have something special, let it be that. Yours Truly Chas[Charles] A. Raymond
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